Alternatives to joomfish for joomla 2.5

[dcardoza24]

Are there alternatives to using joomfish for joomla 2.5.x ? I am planning on installing a live site, and have a test server. I would like to use joomfish, but I am using mysql, and I am trying to create spanish language content. What other alternatives are there ?

[rkl123]

You could try Josetta from Anything Digital. I've just build a 6 language site with this nice component. Works perfect !

[Chacapamac]

To my knowledge No — Falang is a one guy operation and have a major Flaw to not having SEF URL. Only one language is view by search engine, killing any pro SEO.

Answer from Falang is to install JoomSEF, one of those horrible tentacular SEF programs that always dance with the stability of your entire site and bring, I think more problems than solutions.

[Chacapamac]

I take a look at Josetta and I’m actually impress.
I like what I see.
To investigate.....

[axotolys]

Hello,

sorry but Josetta is fully bugged.
When you are working with a big site with more than 1000 articles, it doesn't work at all.
And the Josetta's team say that the database is corrupted ! Very stupid !
We tried to work with Josetta during 3 months. That's enough.
The support is lazy and so slow. It is a shame.

The website is working well with Joomfish (in Joomla 1.5).
And now the website is working very well with FaLang (in Joomla 2.5). Very stable and very quick.
So yes you must add JoomSEFfor the url, but the result is there and very positive.
And we are very happy with FaLang (and there is a very good support).

http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/languages/multi-lingual-content/18210

[monkichik]

Hello all,

Falang has a major flaw that is it hasn't done any integration with making translated K2 items searchable. I hope related extensions could be released soon. Currently we are really desperate as we have no alternatives for making a multilingual K2 site (on J1.7)......

Already using Falang & K2 and they work really well if your site doesn't not require a specific search engine for each language

[Chacapamac]

I’m in deep testing with Josetta right now...

I’m personally impress...

Even if I’m uncomfortable to post on this forum on that subject, i just want to make thing straight.

All the negative review on the JED or here are related mostly to problems with the importation Josetta tool from Joomfish 1.5 to 2.5. Mostly people with big sites with thousands of article to be import — That part is maybe buggy (the importation tools) but Josetta is relatively new and the Import Tools (a stand alone 1.5 extension) will surely be improved.

Now the real stuff... Josetta

SO FAR —> What I like :

1• Josetta use the inboard translation system of Joomla.
They don’t reinvent the wheel and they don’t go against the grain of what will be the core language system of all future version of joomla. Josetta simply centralize and simplify all the separated steps in one interface. (You still need the basic first steps in making a 2.5 Joomla site multilingual from the start)

it does NOT create any separate tables in your database.
it does NOT require any extra performance overhead (i.e. increased database queries) when displaying translations

In fact, Josetta can be taking out of the site at any time without affecting it’s multilingual

2• Translation of content is based on plugins
Plugins for all Joomla default content types are included
— Any extension compatible with Joomla native multilingual system can be translated with Josetta
— They already pass a K2 plugins to the K2 Devs
— They have an How to make your own plug in tutorial freely available

3• It does simplify a lot the translation process and make it available to non-computer-savy People.

4• Accessible by the frontend

5• Didn’t see any bug (So Far)

6• Forum based help
I was even contacted for a follow up on some suggestions I propose to core functions ....

7• You can integrated Bing Translator (if you have an account) ... cool

SO FAR —> What I SO-SO :
1• Forum help
The question are answered - Not Speedily but still answered in an acceptable amount of time. In hurry to closed the topics (sometimes)

2• The ergonomic of the apps can be better on certain details (but not really bad, simple)

SO FAR —> What I DON’T Like :
1• No translation by the Backend (only frontend)
Meaning that even if you have to create your original content (categories, menus,articles...) by the backend administration you have to switch to frontend to finish your job and translated that new content with the help of Josetta. Not a big big deal but annoying as you have to re-login to the frontend to complete your translation.
I pass this to the dev’s team and they will look to it...
Personally, I made a backend administration Control Panel Quick Icon mark Translation/Traduire where a backend administrator can direcly go to the ONE STEP—>FRONTEND LOGIN —> REDIRECT TO JOSETTA that is far more elegant than the 3 steps —> Go to frontend —> Login —> Go to Josetta

by the way I find this fantastic backend administration control panel Quick Icons manager that you will want to installed on all your sites
http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/administration/extensions-quickicons/16526 — Only 5 euro but fantastic with Tabs,ACL,external links,email link and all... Other free versions plugins exist.

2• The backend translations statistics and component are to minimalist — You can’t really do to much there....

My impression is this is a real solid solution that follow Joomla progression and as time past and joomla addons will add language ability to their components and plugins will be written for Josetta (plugins have to be written for Joomfish) it will be hard to do better.



I add that my communication with the Falang folks was far to be easy and not really friendly...

Not like the suport of Joomfish that ALWAYS been top-notch...